# Problem in Logic Pro -- Host-based Editor values don't match UI values

**URL:** <https://iplug2.discourse.group/t/problem-in-logic-pro-host-based-editor-values-dont-match-ui-values/561>\
**Category:** macOS\
**Created:** [3 February 2022 06:46 UTC](https://iplug2.discourse.group/t/problem-in-logic-pro-host-based-editor-values-dont-match-ui-values/561 "2022-02-03T06:46:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![RexMartin2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@RexMartin2](https://iplug2.discourse.group/u/RexMartin2)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2022 06:46 UTC](https://iplug2.discourse.group/t/problem-in-logic-pro-host-based-editor-values-dont-match-ui-values/561/1 "2022-02-03T06:46:15Z")

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When my plugins are first loaded in Logic the host-based editor does not show the correct (default) control values for parameters - it shows the minimum value for all controls. Once a control is changed - in either the UI or host editor - the value shown for that control then matches in both places. Loading a preset correctly updates the values of all controls in both places.

I tested the same AU plugin in Reaper and it works as expected - the host-based editor values and UI editor match at all times, including first construction.

So, this seems like a bug in Logic however Apple’s plugins work properly, so there must be something in iPlug that’s not communicating properly with Logic on plugin load?

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**Author:** ![RexMartin2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@RexMartin2](https://iplug2.discourse.group/u/RexMartin2)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2022 06:54 UTC](https://iplug2.discourse.group/t/problem-in-logic-pro-host-based-editor-values-dont-match-ui-values/561/2 "2022-02-03T06:54:12Z")

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Just tested DSEQ3 from @TBProAudio and it behaves the same as I observed with my plugins - generic host-based editor does not show correct values when plugin is first loaded. Changing a control value in either place - or loading a preset - updates the value in both places (as it should).

I don’t know of many (any?) people who actually use the host-based controls editor when they have a nice UI so this issue isn’t all that important - but it is concerning that the values don’t match, i.e., what else could be wrong that I don’t see?

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**Author:** ![olilarkin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/iplug2.discourse.group/olilarkin/32/2_2.png) [@olilarkin](https://iplug2.discourse.group/u/olilarkin)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2022 22:12 UTC](https://iplug2.discourse.group/t/problem-in-logic-pro-host-based-editor-values-dont-match-ui-values/561/3 "2022-02-03T22:12:00Z")

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Au hosting changed a lot lately in logic

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**Author:** ![AlexHarker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@AlexHarker](https://iplug2.discourse.group/u/AlexHarker)\
**Post date:** [4 February 2022 09:06 UTC](https://iplug2.discourse.group/t/problem-in-logic-pro-host-based-editor-values-dont-match-ui-values/561/4 "2022-02-04T09:06:03Z")

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Is this only in the latest version of Logic?

I’m on Logic 10.6.3 and I don’t see this issue. I wonder if this relates to out of process hosting.

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**Author:** ![RexMartin2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@RexMartin2](https://iplug2.discourse.group/u/RexMartin2)\
**Post date:** [4 February 2022 18:50 UTC](https://iplug2.discourse.group/t/problem-in-logic-pro-host-based-editor-values-dont-match-ui-values/561/5 "2022-02-04T18:50:51Z")

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I just checked on Logic 10.5.1 on Mojave and it works properly.

The same plugin build opened in Logic 10.7.2 on Big Sur does not work properly - generic editor opens with minimum values, not default values, and does not match the UI controls.

So, yes, it seems to be a Logic version issue however other brands of plugins I have tested work properly on 10.7.2 - so it appears to be a Logic version issue specific to iPlug2.

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**Author:** ![AlexHarker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@AlexHarker](https://iplug2.discourse.group/u/AlexHarker)\
**Post date:** [4 February 2022 19:00 UTC](https://iplug2.discourse.group/t/problem-in-logic-pro-host-based-editor-values-dont-match-ui-values/561/6 "2022-02-04T19:00:00Z")

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It seems unusual as the AU parameter info includes a default value, so logic definitely has access to that info. It also should have access to poll the plugin for its current parameter values.

I can look again once I am able to upgrade (to do with the fact that the license I have is not under my control), but without being able to reproduce it would be pure speculation about what is (or isn’t) happening.
